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2021 Contest
I have wrapped up the article improvement contest for 2021 and reset it for 2022. All that is left is for someone to award the first place chevrons for September, the November and December second place barnstars and the 2021 Military History Writers' Contest Cup. I'll write something up for the Bugle. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Have dished out all the chevrons, barnstars and the Contest Cup (congrats BTW). Zawed (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
ACR backlog IV
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty Open since February. Has three supports, but needs an image review. Vami_IV is working on the source review.- Has three supports, source and image reviews. Promoted. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Thirty Years' War Open since June. I am still not sure where this one has got to.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of British infantry brigades of the Second World War (1–100) Seems to be wrapping up.Promoted.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Eucherius (son of Stilicho) Needs one more general review.
- Has three supports, source and image reviews. Promoted. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Nikephoros III Botaneiates Still in need of three reviews.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Siege of Ngatapa Needs another general review and a source review.Promoted.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ivo Herenčić No takers at all so far, for a first time nominator.
- I have done a review. It is in good shape and I would commend it to potential reviewers. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:33, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Second Battle of KharkovNominated for possible delisting and could use some more eyes on it.- Seems to be consensus to delist. Suggest closing. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Yugoslavia Again, has attracted little interest thus far.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/42 cm Gamma howitzer Seems close to done.Promoted.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of British infantry brigades of the Second World War (101–309 and named) Ticking along.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ho Chi Minh trail Another nominated for delisting. So far it has attracted no comments.
The twelve above are all of the ACRs more than two months old, and could use a bit of TLC. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Michael Herrick over 2 months old and just needs 1 more support! I reviewed 3 ACRs today to combat the alarming backlog.(t · c) buidhe 10:20, 3 February 2022 (UTC)- Passed. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 10:07, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Siege of Breteuil: Two months old, needs source review and additional reviewers. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 11:06, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
ACR backlog update
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Thirty Years' War has attracted a lot of comments but, I think, only one support.
- 8 months old, with only one support and no comments since October. It may be time to put this one out of its misery. Hog Farm Talk 15:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, and have archived it. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Nikephoros III Botaneiates has enough reviews. Waiting for the nominator to come back on them.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ivo Herenčić needs image and source reviews.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Yugoslavia: the nominator has not edited for five weeks. I suggest giving it another two to three weeks to see if they come back.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of British infantry brigades of the Second World War (101–309 and named) needs a source review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ho Chi Minh trail could do with further comments and/or work.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Siege of Breteuil just needs a source review.
- Just needs sign-off from CPA. Hog Farm Talk 17:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- It now has three supports and image and source passes. I have addressed all of CPA's comments but they haven't edited since 29 January. I'm not sure if the nom should be considered ready to be closed or not. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Glasgow, Missouri just needs one more general review.
- Should be promotable. Hog Farm Talk 15:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Léon Degrelle needs a source review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tom Eastick also needs a source review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Brazilian military junta of 1930 just needs a source review.
That's all of those that are more than eight weeks old. We seem to be staying on top of this. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:42, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
AutoCheck report for December
January 2022 Bugle
Hi, Could someone please add the contest results to the 'project news' section of the upcoming Bugle edition? The link is Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/January 2022/Project news. Thanks! Nick-D (talk) 08:48, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Gog has attended to this. Zawed (talk) 02:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
AutoCheck report for January
January 2022 contest
The January edition of the contest needs to be wrapped up; I've dished out the prize for second but my entries need to be verified and the prize for first place awarded. I've done the write up for the Bugle as well. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Zawed. I have done the remaining bits. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
ACR backlog latest
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Thirty Years' War Reopened per this discussion. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:35, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- It is possible that this has achieved a consensus to promote. It seems to have Catlemur, Hog Farm and Palastwache; an addressed image review; and Catlemur's "ref errors" section seems to meet the A class source review criterion. As I have previously failed and then reopened the nomination I consider myself involved, but perhaps a non-involved @WP:MILHIST coordinators: could have a look? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Nikephoros III Botaneiates has one support and one oppose. Nothing from the nominator for five months. I have given them a nudge. Withdrawn at nominator's request. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:13, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ivo Herenčić needs an image review. I have prompted the nominator.
- Archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:17, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ho Chi Minh trail could do with further comments and/or work.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Brazilian military junta of 1930 just needs a source review.
- This one is done, have approved it for passing A-class. Zawed (talk) 02:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Raymond needs a couple more general reviews.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Charles Richardson (Royal Navy officer) just needs a source review.
- Ready for promotion. ––♠Vami_IV†♠ 23:11, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, I'm only seeing two general supports, plus source/IR supports. CPA's drive by comment doesn't constitute a support. I'll try and take a look at this later on today. Zawed (talk) 02:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Now has three supports, am adding to ACRs for closure. Zawed (talk) 09:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, I'm only seeing two general supports, plus source/IR supports. CPA's drive by comment doesn't constitute a support. I'll try and take a look at this later on today. Zawed (talk) 02:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Kirk–Holden war needs a source review and a further general review.
That's all that's outstanding from nominations six weeks or older. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
The person the instructions here say to ping has been indeffed-blocked and TPA-revoked. It would probably be a good idea to update the instructions in some form. Hog Farm Talk 20:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Are they actually still relevant to anything? Gog the Mild (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I frankly don't know; I've never seen or heard of anything related to that contest outside of seeing that one paragraph there. Hog Farm Talk 20:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I am minded to boldly delete it. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Same, especially since Planespotter is the person who added it in 2018; I'm not sure that it's ever been widely used. Hog Farm Talk 21:18, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- At various times, I have had thoughts to try to dig through the older project documentation/templates and see if there's anything that needs updated/removed, such as this or from a few months back when we updated the assessment examples. Hog Farm Talk 21:25, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- And gone. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:12, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I am minded to boldly delete it. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I frankly don't know; I've never seen or heard of anything related to that contest outside of seeing that one paragraph there. Hog Farm Talk 20:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Military history articles with no associated task force
Could someone have a look at category:Military history articles with no associated task force? Normally our Bot assigns task forces to articles for us, based on their categories, but over time a small number (ie a dozen or so) (ignore the draft articles) have accumulated that it cannot assign task forces to, often because the articles have no categories. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:29, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- The last holdouts are:
- Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think I have covered them all except the first two. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that! I have cleaned up the remaining two. There seems to be three things that confuse the Bot:
- Articles with no categories, or with categories that it cannot associate with a task force;
- Redirects marked as MilHist to articles which are not marked as MilHist; and
- Articles with talk pages with multiple MilHist banners.
- I will have the Bot handle (2) and (3) automatically in the future. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:44, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that! I have cleaned up the remaining two. There seems to be three things that confuse the Bot:
- I think I have covered them all except the first two. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
AutoCheck report for February
The following articles were rated as B class by automatic assessment:
2022 Guinea-Bissau coup d'état attemptFails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)Andrew MosesB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Battalion tactical groupB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:12, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Battle of FahlB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:12, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Battle of ZarumillaB3 = no. One sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Bran SymondsonFails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Chinese-American service in World War IIFails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:23, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Donald J. GuterConfirm as B. CPA-5 (talk) 14:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Edward Wood (British Army officer)confirm as B. Zawed (talk) 09:54, 11 April 2022 (UTC)File SzeretvaiB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Gaius DuiliusB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:27, 28 April 2022 (UTC)HMS Aeolus (1758)downgraded a month ago by Llammakey Hog Farm Talk 14:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)HMS Marne (1915)Confirmed. Hog Farm Talk 14:12, 15 March 2022 (UTC)J. Fred. Waringstart. B1, b2, b4=no. Hog Farm Talk 14:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Johann LaufferDowngraded has only a one-line lead. CPA-5 (talk) 21:35, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Johannes NaumannFails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)John Grover (British Army officer)as only a one-senctence lead so no b here. CPA-5 (talk) 18:47, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Juozas VėbraHas only a one-senctence lead so no b here. CPA-5 (talk) 21:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Kazys Tallat-KelpšaOne-sentence lead thus B3 = no. CPA-5 (talk) 10:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Klemensas PopeliučkaFails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Konstantinas DulksnysB3 = no has a single sentence lead and Personal life. CPA-5 (talk) 16:27, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Mary Jane Watkins (dentist)Fails to meet B3 due a single-sentence lead. CPA-5 (talk) 17:37, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Mikas RėklaitisB3 no has a single sentence lead and only one section. CPA-5 (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Oleg BelaventsevB3 no has a single sentence lead and only one section. CPA-5 (talk) 14:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Oliver SwannFails B2; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Open cityFails B1 & B2; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Operation BaytownB1, 2, 3 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Operation Hammer (1997)B2 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Operation KillerB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Operation Miracle (Rhodesia)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Operation Neretva '93C class. CPA-5 (talk) 21:39, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Operation SubstanceB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Osgood T. Hadleystart. Completeness, referencing, and structure issues. Hog Farm Talk 18:58, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Ottoman–Persian War (1821–1823)One sentence lead, very short; B2, 3 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Patrick M. McCarthy (lawyer)Fails B1 & B2; start. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)People's Liberation Guerrilla Army (India)B1 and B2 = no. Another single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Peter ArnisonB3 and B4 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Peter Beale (British Army officer)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Peter Harding (RAF officer, born 1940)B3 =no. Another single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Peter Walker (RAF officer)B3 =no. Another Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)PF-89B4 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Philip H. MorganOutside of project scope, brief peacetime militia service isn't enough. Removed tag. Hog Farm Talk 04:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Philip TrousdellC-class, uncited material in infobox. Hog Farm Talk 04:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC)PNS HamzaStart class. Parsecboy (talk) 23:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)PNS KhalidStart class. Parsecboy (talk) 23:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Pohjanmaa-class corvetteB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:24, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Pralay (missile)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Pranas LesauskisStart class; has a one-line lead and only one section. CPA-5 (talk) 21:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Presidential Band of the Republic of MoldovaStart.--Catlemur (talk) 20:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Pskov Airportstart. b1, b2, b3=no. Hog Farm Talk 14:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Publius Servilius Priscus Structus (consul 495 BC)B1 = no, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, single sentence paragraphs, use of primary sources. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Qari ZainB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Quintus PleminiusB1 = no. Primary sourcing. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)RAF Barford St JohnB2 = no. Very short. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)RAF CottamAssessed as a C, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 11:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)RAF Hutton Cranswickconfirm as a B. Zawed (talk) 11:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Ralph Heywoodconfirm as a B. Zawed (talk) 11:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Ram FortressB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Ranger Regiment (United Kingdom)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Rauma-class missile boatB1, B2, B3 = no. I am not sure what the bot was thinking. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Revolutionary Military SovietSingle sentence lead. Is the bot still not picking these up? Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)R-Han 122B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Richard LeakeSingle sentence lead. Is the bot still not picking these up? Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Robert K. U. Kihuneconfirm as B. Zawed (talk) 10:07, 13 April 2022 (UTC)RRH Staxton WoldC class, needs a bit more coverage. Zawed (talk) 10:07, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Schutzmannschaft Battalion 258B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Schutzmannschaft Battalion 259B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Siege of Damascus (1229)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)SS Carlos Carrillostart class, B1, B2, not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)SS Charles F. Amidonstart class, B1, B2, not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Stasys PundzevičiusB class. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Thomas N. BurnetteC class, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Vladas Mieželisstart class, B1 not met (dod not cited). Zawed (talk) 22:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Vladas Nagevičiusstart class, B1, B3 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Vladas Rėklaitisstart class, only B5 met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Willem van PanhuysC class, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)William Renwick (surgeon)start class, B1, B3 not met. Zawed (talk) 09:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Wrights Hill FortressB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Zungwini Mountain skirmishesB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
MilHistBot (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Remaining articles
Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-QurashiB seems fine. Parsecboy (talk) 19:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Berkshire Fencible CavalryB seems fine. Parsecboy (talk) 19:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Escadrille CherifienneC-class. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 22:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)F.R.A.S. (weapon)C-class. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 22:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)German victory parade in Paris (1871)B. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me)James Crichton of FrendraughtTerrible grammar, Start. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Kyiv offensive (2022)C-class. I feel this article should remain as C-class because of the recent nature of this particular conflict, and the MOS:DATELINE going throughout the prose. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 22:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Lunca massacreC, coverage lacking. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Okot OdhiamboC, coverage lacking. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:38, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Operation HaudegenIssues with scope/coverage and structure. Start. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Ora Elmer HuntC, coverage lacking. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Ouvrage Col des BanquettesB2, B3 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)OvidaGiven the sparse sources, B. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:35, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Państwowa Fabryka KarabinówFails B3. CPA-5 (talk) 22:44, 26 May 2022 (UTC)Paramount GroupNo doubt promotional, but B. Paras are too short and the history section doesn't flow. I would have no complaint if someone else took a look and thought it was a lower class. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:42, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Patrick Walker (MI5 officer)Start, unreliable sources and large coverage gaps (one of twenty years of his life). Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Peace CrossB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Peircy BrettB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Pierre François Xavier BoyerB1 and B3 = no CPA-5 (talk) 00:41, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Police and Border Guard Aviation GroupC, lacking coverage of operations. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Presidio Santa Maria de GalveB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Project 75 AlphaC, needs more detail on the project. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:26, 28 May 2022 (UTC)RAF Support CommandB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Ramón González ValenciaB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Ramparts of Quebec CityB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Torture in popular cultureB. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Upcoming Bugle
Hi, could someone please add the February contest results to the Project News section of the upcoming Bugle edition? The link is Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/March 2022/Project news. Thanks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 20:29, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Done, and dished out the first and second place awards as well. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 07:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks mate. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
AutoCheck report for April
The following articles were rated as B class by automatic assessment:
10th Infantry Regiment (Lithuania)B2 = no. No background, skimpy lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)13th Independent Battery New York Light ArtilleryB2, B3 = no. Needs rewriting in prose, a background adding and the lead expanding. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)1955 RAF Shackleton aircraft disappearanceB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)2022 Pakistani airstrikes in AfghanistanB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)2nd Uhlan Regiment (Lithuania)B2 = no. No background, skimpy lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)3rd Battalion, 26th MarinesShort lead and body misses some info from lead. CPA-5 (talk) 17:59, 2 May 2022 (UTC)5 Regiment Army Air CorpsDowngraded due short lead. CPA-5 (talk) 18:01, 2 May 2022 (UTC)7th Massachusetts Infantry RegimentC-class. Not comprehensive. Hog Farm Talk 13:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Abuja–Kaduna train attackB2 = no. Thin. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Adolf von DeinesB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Albert Don-ChebeB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Archimede MischiB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Aziz Khan MokriB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Battle of Bean's StationB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Battle of Breitenfeld (1642)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Battle of Château-LaudranB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Battle of Colonia del Sacramento (1826)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Battle of KátyB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Berdiansk port attackB2 = no. Too brief, no background. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Bhaskar Ram KolhatkarB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Bombing of BorodiankaB2 = no. No background. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Brazilian frigate AmazonasB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)Cecil William Haydonconfirm as B. Zawed (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Elspeth GreenB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Federated Legion of WomenB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Foca-class submarine (Brazil)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 09:21, 28 May 2022 (UTC)General No PityB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Hans StarkB3 = no. Single sentence lead, over reliant on extended quotations. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Henry S. LansingB2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Amity (1650)B1, B2 both not met. Zawed (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Convertine (1650)B1, B2 both not met. Zawed (talk) 23:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Expedition 1637C-class. Moved to HMS Expedition (1637). –♠Vami_IV†♠ 21:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Experiment (1689)start class, B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Gillyflower (1651)start class, B1, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Greyhound (1720)start class, B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Guinea (1649)start class, B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Marigold (1650)start class, B1, B2 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Mermaid (1651)start class, B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Milford (1690)start-class. Hog Farm Talk 21:07, 6 May 2022 (UTC)HMS NortheskB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Oberon (1916)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Octavia (1916)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Opportune (1915)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Oracle (1915)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Orestes (1916)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Orpheus (1916)B class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Pembroke (1690)Fails B1 & B2; start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Portsmouth (1649)start class: B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Rose (1712)start class: B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Rye (1727)start class: B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Salmon (1916)Confirmed. Hog Farm Talk 14:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Speedwell (1690)start class: B1, B2 and B4 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)HMS Stork (1916)Confirmed. Hog Farm Talk 14:12, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Human Engineering LaboratoryB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)Imperial Patrianovist GuardB2, B4 = no. Too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)Ira G. GroverB2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)James Lindsay of Crawford (died 1395/6)B3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)John W. Stilesstart-class. Cited find a grave and I've posted an accuracy concern on talk. Hog Farm Talk 13:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC)José Francisco Gana CastroB2 = no. Too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)Khwarazmian army between 1231 and 1246B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)Kramatorsk railway station attackB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)Lambaré (chieftain)B2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief, over reliant on extended quotations. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Manon TardonC class, B1 not met. Zawed (talk) 03:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Manuel Jorge Rodrigues, 1st Baron of TaquariB3 fails because it only has one section. CPA-5 (talk) 19:45, 26 May 2022 (UTC)March 2022 attacks in the Central African RepublicFails B2 & B3; Start class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC)Modified 1719 Establishment GroupStart, not sure there is even enough for an article. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:53, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Moral equality of combatantsB class. -Indy beetle (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Norval E. WelchB2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Olena StepanivB3 = no. Too brief, especially the lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Orange WilliamB3 = no. Information in lead is not in main body. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Peter Parrott (RAF officer)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Prizrak BrigadeB2, B3 = no. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Prosper WetmoreB2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)RAF FuntingtonB2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief. Should be a list, not an article. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Rao ShoukunB1, B2 = no. Unreliable single source, too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Rolf RheborgB class.Royal Marine Barracks, WoolwichB3 = no. Too brief, especially the lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Russian disinformation in the post-Soviet eraB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Rybinsk UprisingJust about scrapes a B. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)Samuel MosleyB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Selective conscientious objectionB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Siege of MouraB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2022 (UTC)SMS Loreley (1885)Fails B1; C class. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)SS Phönix (1913)Needs more content to meet B1, reassessed as C-class for now.SS Rhineland (1938)same as above. Zawed (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)USRC Blacksame as above. Zawed (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)USRC Detector (1825)same as above. Zawed (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)William H. Medillstart; unreliable sources and comprehensiveness issues. Hog Farm Talk 13:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)William T. CooleyB class, just. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Wilson FlaggB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Worcester-class cruiserB2 = no. Insufficient detail. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:19, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Xhemal GjunkshiB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Yank, the Army WeeklyB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Yavoriv military base attackB2 = no. No background. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Yemeni National ResistanceB2, B3 = no. Single sentence lead, too brief. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Yen Teh-faB2 = no. Not enough under Career. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Yogi SupardiB3 = no. Single sentence lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Youlan-class cable layerNo lead. CPA-5 (talk) 14:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Zafar Khan (Indian general)B class. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Zameer Uddin ShahB2 = no. Too thin. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Zrarieh raidB class. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
MilHistBot (talk) 19:33, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Notability Question
I agreed to do a GA review of the Vito Trause article. I believe this fails notability guidelines (WP:BIO), but I'd appreciate your comments. The subject of the article was an American WW2 private who got captured by the Germans. He survived the prison camp and lived a relatively uneventful life after the war, dying at age 94. I'm sure there were literally thousands of other veterans who had a similar experience. The author did a lot of work citing the article, but the citations are all from local newspapers and not histories. At one time it was nominated for deletion, but the decision was to Speedy Keep. Before I rain on someone's parade and do a quick fail, I'd like to know what other editors think. Please comment. Thanks. Djmaschek (talk) 23:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- The article was speedily kept at AfD after a user made a argument that was similar in substance to the one that you are making here. A quick look through the article's sources shows multiple bylined obituaries in mainstream WP:NEWSORGs, international coverage of when the individual graduated from high school at age 92 (not
all from local newspapers
as you incorrectly stated above), and multiple in-depth articles on who he is as a person while he was still alive as well as the various honors he received later in life. There is significantly more coverage than the WP:GNG threshold of multiple independent RS that provide non-trivial coverage of the article subject. If you think the subject is non-notable, you can take it to AfD, but AfDing an article that was speedy kept in the past 5 months without introducing new arguments doesn't seem like the best use of editors' time. — Mhawk10 (talk) 23:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)- I was hoping to get a comment from one of our editors, not the author/submitter. I will await a comment from a WPMILHIST editor. Djmaschek (talk) 19:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Every article needs a basis for its notability. It appears to be the case that "well-known community figure in New Jersey" is central to the claimed notability, as nothing else is in any way notable other than one event in his life (his graduation from high school at 92). In the lead his claim to being a "well-known community figure in New Jersey" is cited to three sources (two citations are to the same source, different dates), two of which are obviously local papers. The Bergen Record covers four counties, and the The Pascack Press (and its various other iterations) appears to be a small town paper. The only international citation to this claim in the lead is to The Economic Times of India. When you examine that article you realise that it is based on Twitter posts. It hasn't even been picked up from a wire service. The New York Times citation is just to a list of casualties, the New York Post is unreliable (see WP:NYPOST), as noted, the Fox News story is classic WP:BIO1E, the rest is county or multi-county level newspapers or news websites or local authorities or radio stations. If these arguments weren't properly ventilated at the previous AfD, they should have been, and I would support its nomination and deletion and mentioning him in the Bergen County, New Jersey article, including a few salient points from this article. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- The basis for notability is that he easily passes WP:GNG. The WP:BIO1E claim makes no sense, since he's clearly covered throughout his life in the context of multiple events. And, The Economic Times is running a Press Trust of India wire story, so I have no clue where
it hasn't even been picked up from a wire service
comes from—but it is certainly not from a careful examination of the sources. The Record being framed as a small newspaper is bonkers; the paper's circulation in 2013 was about twice that of Israeli paper of record Haaretz in a U.S. state that about the same population as the State of Israel. That Trause has been repeatedly covered over decades shows that the public interest in the individual was not some sporadic thing limited to one event. If you're going to nominate it, I can't stop you, but I think that doing so would be a tremendous waste of time in light of poor arguments for deletion. — Mhawk10 (talk) 13:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- The basis for notability is that he easily passes WP:GNG. The WP:BIO1E claim makes no sense, since he's clearly covered throughout his life in the context of multiple events. And, The Economic Times is running a Press Trust of India wire story, so I have no clue where
- Every article needs a basis for its notability. It appears to be the case that "well-known community figure in New Jersey" is central to the claimed notability, as nothing else is in any way notable other than one event in his life (his graduation from high school at 92). In the lead his claim to being a "well-known community figure in New Jersey" is cited to three sources (two citations are to the same source, different dates), two of which are obviously local papers. The Bergen Record covers four counties, and the The Pascack Press (and its various other iterations) appears to be a small town paper. The only international citation to this claim in the lead is to The Economic Times of India. When you examine that article you realise that it is based on Twitter posts. It hasn't even been picked up from a wire service. The New York Times citation is just to a list of casualties, the New York Post is unreliable (see WP:NYPOST), as noted, the Fox News story is classic WP:BIO1E, the rest is county or multi-county level newspapers or news websites or local authorities or radio stations. If these arguments weren't properly ventilated at the previous AfD, they should have been, and I would support its nomination and deletion and mentioning him in the Bergen County, New Jersey article, including a few salient points from this article. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- I was hoping to get a comment from one of our editors, not the author/submitter. I will await a comment from a WPMILHIST editor. Djmaschek (talk) 19:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
ACR latest
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Thirty Years' War Reopened per this discussion.
- It is possible that this has achieved a consensus to promote. It seems to have Catlemur, Hog Farm and Palastwache; an addressed image review; and Catlemur's "ref errors" section seems to meet the A class source review criterion. As I have previously failed and then reopened the nomination I consider myself involved, but perhaps a non-involved @WP:MILHIST coordinators: could have a look? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Does this still need attending to? I see that the ACR is currently closed as of 20 March 2022 (four days before the above); would you like a possible re-open and pass? –♠Vami_IV†♠ 17:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- It needs reopening. I thought I had done so. I suspect that it has passed. If not, perhaps you could lay out what still needs attending to? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:36, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- The talk page has been corrected - but the most recent MILHISTBOT edit at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Thirty Years' War needs reverted, and it needs to be re-transcluded to the ACR noms page (I think it goes below my Raymond nom). Hog Farm Talk 17:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've done both of these steps. Hog Farm Talk 17:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- The talk page has been corrected - but the most recent MILHISTBOT edit at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Thirty Years' War needs reverted, and it needs to be re-transcluded to the ACR noms page (I think it goes below my Raymond nom). Hog Farm Talk 17:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- It needs reopening. I thought I had done so. I suspect that it has passed. If not, perhaps you could lay out what still needs attending to? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:36, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Does this still need attending to? I see that the ACR is currently closed as of 20 March 2022 (four days before the above); would you like a possible re-open and pass? –♠Vami_IV†♠ 17:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- It is possible that this has achieved a consensus to promote. It seems to have Catlemur, Hog Farm and Palastwache; an addressed image review; and Catlemur's "ref errors" section seems to meet the A class source review criterion. As I have previously failed and then reopened the nomination I consider myself involved, but perhaps a non-involved @WP:MILHIST coordinators: could have a look? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Passed. ––♠Vami_IV†♠ 21:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Raymond needs two further general supports.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Kirk–Holden war needs a source review and a further general review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Gallic Wars needs most things, and may have bogged down.
- Withdrawn. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:23, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/The Holocaust in Bohemia and Moravia needs both source and image reviews.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/USS Johnston (DD-557) needs most things just a source review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/CSS Baltic needs two more general reviews and a source review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of the Blacks needs one more support and a source review.
- Took care of it. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Gisco (died 239 BC) needs one more support and a source review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sayfo has two general supports.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Oswald Boelcke needs the works a source review.
That brings us to the end of February, nomination wise. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- G'day Gog. Has anything left over above not been moved to the new thread? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:36, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
AutoCheck report for March
B Requests
@WP:MILHIST coordinators: Hey all I just realised some of our fellow Wikipedians have added some requests here. Some of these noms are waiting almost a month or even longer so can we take a moment to tackle these? Thanks. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:01, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
One-sentence lead
Okay @WP:MILHIST coordinators: , it's May and the MilHistBot's monthly autoCheck report is coming and we barely finished the February autocheck. We only need to check 29 articles for February and 141 for March. A lot of the past articles we reviewed have a one-sentence lead, is it possible to let MilHistBot know that no leads and one-sentence lead is not B? That'll remove a lot of articles we shouldn't take time to look into. CPA-5 (talk) 14:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that was answered fairly promptly. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:37, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I've been out of the loop. Before I archive this, is it done @WP:MILHIST coordinators: ? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:50, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- The prompt answer referred to was a “no”, so I assume not. Gog the Mild (talk) 07:06, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- The MilHist bot reports on the articles that it has processed over the course of the previous month. So nothing could be done to affect the April report. Changes made will be reflected in the May report, which will appear in a few days time. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Hawkeye! Great to add a few tweaks here and there to reduce the impost on human eyes to check. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that Hawkeye, it will help a lot. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Hawkeye! Great to add a few tweaks here and there to reduce the impost on human eyes to check. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- The MilHist bot reports on the articles that it has processed over the course of the previous month. So nothing could be done to affect the April report. Changes made will be reflected in the May report, which will appear in a few days time. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- The prompt answer referred to was a “no”, so I assume not. Gog the Mild (talk) 07:06, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- I've been out of the loop. Before I archive this, is it done @WP:MILHIST coordinators: ? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:50, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
April contest
I have done most of the routine stuff for April and will write it up for The Bugle once the space is available. Meanwhile, perhaps someone could check my entries and take care of the runner up award? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:48, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Consider it done. Zawed (talk) 10:30, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
ACR to do list for May
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/CSS Baltic needs two more general reviews and a source review.
- I'll take this, this weekend. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:18, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sayfoneeds one further general support, a source review, and an image review.- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Oswald Boelcke just needs a source review.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Witold Pilecki needs the works.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Foreign volunteers in the Rhodesian Security Forcesneeds one further general review.
- Will take care soon. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:25, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Excubitors needs everything other than an image review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Utica just needs one more general review.
- Reviewed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sieges of Berwick (1355 and 1356) needs everything other than an image review.
And that is all of the current ACRs. (Bar two where the nominators seem dormant.) Gog the Mild (talk) 16:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Notability of German Type UC III submarines
I've done a lot assessments for the German Type UC III submarines. Most of them do not seem notable at all, or not warranting their own articles. None of those completed during World War I went on any patrols for Germany. Typical something like this : boilerplate design information (same across all the subs), date ordered, date launched, date commissioned, "As with the rest of the completed UC III boats, UC-96 conducted no war patrols and sank no ships", date surrendered, broken up etc. A few had some events once given to the Allies as war prizes, such as SM UC-97, but treaties required them all to be destroyed by 1921, apparently. It seems it would be better to put these all into a table on the parent class page. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with this. Stuff like SM UC-112 there's really basically nothing that can be said outside of the class description; these are probably better off merged into tables in the class article. Hog Farm Talk 23:00, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- A bit late to the party, but I agree - in general, ships that either weren't finished or had no active service generally don't warrant individual articles (there are, of course, exceptions, but these are fairly rare). Parsecboy (talk) 16:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
May 2022 Bugle
Hi, Could someone please fill in the awards and honours and contest department sections of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/May 2022/Project news? Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 08:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Nick-D (talk) 03:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
AutoCheck report for May
- Hi Hawkeye7, has the bot slipped a cog? I have come across several articles in this list where there are wholly uncited paragraphs. Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thomas Jefferson Morgan looked like this when the Bot assessed it as B class. Subsequently, this edit removed Findagrave as a non-RS. I could perhaps have the Bot discount Findagrave references. Let me know if you have another example. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ah. Fair enough. XM1203 Non-Line-of-Sight Cannon? Sweden–NATO relations? Gog the Mild (talk) 20:08, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thomas Jefferson Morgan looked like this when the Bot assessed it as B class. Subsequently, this edit removed Findagrave as a non-RS. I could perhaps have the Bot discount Findagrave references. Let me know if you have another example. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- The first two I checked today both had single sentence leads. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Hawkeye7, has the bot slipped a cog? I have come across several articles in this list where there are wholly uncited paragraphs. Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
ACR to do list for June
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Oswald Boelcke seems to be getting there, but could use a few more eyes on it.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Witold Pilecki has been nominated for three months and has collected one oppose and no supports. Perhaps we should consider closing it down?
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Excubitors needs a source review and one general review.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Sieges of Berwick (1355 and 1356) needs one more general review.Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Van Buren needs three general reviews.Now closed. Ian Rose (talk) 08:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Freddie de Guingand, another recent nomination.- Only needs a source review. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
And that is all of the currently active ACRs. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:25, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Do demoted FAs keep their A-class status?
The previously featured article Finnish Civil War was recently demoted following a WP:FAR/WP:FARC. It was then marked as A-class in this diff. While WP:GACR clearly states that demoted featured articles are not automatically graded as good articles and must be reassessed for quality
I haven't seen any similar verbiage for the A-class status. In this specific case, I'd highlight that 1) the ACR was done in 2006 and 2) given that none of the FAR concerns were addressed, an A class reassessment would presumably be pretty much just a redo of the FAR. What's the procedure here? Cheers, Ljleppan (talk) 15:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Ljleppan: MILHIST A-Class is unconnected to FA stayus, so a ACR reassessment would be needed to remove A-Class status. I did this not too long ago with War against Nabis. Hog Farm Talk 17:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Or see this current removal discussion. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check these out. - Ljleppan (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Or see this current removal discussion. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC)